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    this forum needs some building code inspectors!

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      gbathree @Zander last edited by

      @zander interesting... I sent a note to these guys: structure1.com. Had a nice response, but I'll call them and see what they think and try to respond here.

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        rachelanna @gbathree last edited by

        @gbathree we are interested to know what you find out. We contacted a local engineering company here on the Big Island (EPI) and the man (not an engineer) wasn't hopeful that any of his engineers wanted to take this on.

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          Zander Dragon Tamer Workshop Graduate Forum Administrator @rachelanna last edited by

          @rachelanna I've heard that Structure1 is asking $7,000 to approve an aircrete dome. That seems to be a sticking point for folks.

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            KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @Zander last edited by

            @zander Can't you send some some plans to a local governing authority to request a permit.

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              KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

              @knowitallteen *?

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                KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

                @knowitallteen What do you mean sticking point? Can you clarify?

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                  gbathree @Zander last edited by

                  @zander Wow that's actually pretty good! Is a separate permit required on every buildling? If you repeat the same structure, do you need to repeat the costs?

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                    Zander Dragon Tamer Workshop Graduate Forum Administrator last edited by

                    @KnowItAllTeen City and county building departments can only approve plans that use standard building methods. Anything creative or interesting has to be 'stamped' (approved) by a engineer who is certified in that state.

                    sticking point = the point at which the progress stops = deal breaker

                    @gbathree I heard that subsequent stamps would only cost $3500. Still a sticking point for most aircrete builders.

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                      upwinger Major Contributor @Zander last edited by

                      $7K is quite a sticking point! Thats a lot of cement and Drexel!!

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                        KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @upwinger last edited by

                        @upwinger That's why domegaia is making a bunch of ready made plans already approved by engineers. At least, Gibran mentioned that a while back.

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                          KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

                          @knowitallteen They partnered with some engineering firm that is licensed in every state. That is what I heard anyway. Am I wrong?

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                            upwinger Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

                            @knowitallteen I remember seeing that post in the old forum also, I've not seen any updates .

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                              Zander Dragon Tamer Workshop Graduate Forum Administrator @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

                              I have heard that that idea is dead in the water due to the sticking points. The engineering firm demonstrated to be overly expensive. I believe that is by design, so that only the elites can truly build what they want.

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                                KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @Zander last edited by

                                @zander Is there any option for those who do not have a lot of money?

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                                  KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by KnowItAllTeen

                                  @knowitallteen Well, $10,000 plus $7,000 for approval is not too bad for a house. That is still a bit pricey. The main problem is the limitations people have to build what they want. So, what can be done about that?

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                                    Zander Dragon Tamer Workshop Graduate Forum Administrator last edited by Zander

                                    For those who want to build what they want, how they want, it is very helpful to find land that is free of government scrutiny.

                                    Look for towns, counties, or countries with minimal or zero building codes and zoning codes. These exist, but they are the exception. These places are usually low income and low population. In the US, look for counties that don't generate enough taxes to pay a building inspector. There are a few small towns in the US that meet this criteria as well - they are even more rare in my experience.

                                    For those who want the freedom to build without government interference, but aren't willing or able to live in a low govern
                                    ment area, a different approach is to have secluded property and strong boundaries. If your structures are not visible from the road, and if you keep your gates closed and fences maintained around your property, then you have a reasonable chance of remaining immune from direct government intrusion*. However, you must also be very discreet about letting anyone else see your buildings, especially neighbors. If anyone knows that you have unpermitted structures and decides they don't like you, they can and often do report it to the county. It makes sense to be on excellent terms with your neighbors before considering such a project. It can be helpful if you know that your neighbors also have unpermitted structures. However, I have seen entire neighborhoods get ratted out by a single obnoxious human being.

                                    There are other solutions as well, but these are the ones I am most familiar with.

                                    *Many counties regularly check satellite images for the appearance of unpermitted structures. However, at this point, they need to conduct an on-site inspection before they can make any claims. In most counties they can't legally hop a fence or open your gate to conduct an inspection. If the cancer of governmental tyranny continues to grow at its current rate, they would soon be able to conduct such inspections via drone or other intrusive method. In general, the longer a structure stands undisputed, the better a chance it will have of being grandfathered in if necessary at some point.

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                                      KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @Zander last edited by

                                      @zander This is very helpful. Thank you.

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                                        KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @KnowItAllTeen last edited by

                                        @knowitallteen I think someone should bring this up with governing authorities on construction. There is a demand for sustainable housing. This is a solution to it. In places like Hawaii and California, where there is a need for it to be sustainable and cheap. They would be more willing to create codes for dome homes.

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                                          Zander Dragon Tamer Workshop Graduate Forum Administrator @KnowItAllTeen last edited by Zander

                                          @knowitallteen said in this forum needs some building code inspectors!:

                                          I think someone should bring this up with governing authorities on construction. There is a demand for sustainable housing. This is a solution to it. In places like Hawaii and California, where there is a need for it to be sustainable and cheap. They would be more willing to create codes for dome homes.

                                          "Governing authorities" are motivated and influenced primarily by profit potential. This is because federal, state, county, and city governments are corporations...

                                          just like McDonald's is a corporation.

                                          McDonald's menu, pricing, advertising and ingredients are based on what will make the most profit. McDonald's is not concerned about our health or well being, except as it pertains to profit. Most people are willing to pay more for food that satisfies their addictive cravings conveniently than they are willing to pay for food that is healthy or inconvenient in any way. Therefore, McDonald's is happy to provide the least healthy food possible, because it provides the most profits. We pay McDonald's to do it.

                                          Our government authorities are no different.

                                          Mr Joe Biden is currently the president of the United States corporation.

                                          Chris Kempczinski is currently the president of McDonald's.

                                          The building codes and zoning codes that are in place are there to create profit. Aircrete is cost effective, sustainable, and efficient. That type of technology is not good for business.

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                                            KnowItAllTeen Major Contributor @Zander last edited by

                                            @zander I don't know if that's completely true. When you are using such materials and products that are cost effective, you are cutting down on expenses, not necessarily profit. Domegaia is a construction company and they're all about pushing for low-cost housing. Also, government (democratic) generally responds to what people want when enough of us want it. This is where activism comes in. Their job is to spread awareness of problems and solutions. Domegaia is still not well known among a lot of people. All of my friends have never heard of it. This is a place where it can grow. Keep in mind these techniques of Domegaia are very new. We're only seeing just the beginning.

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